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Abortion: An Issue of National Security

I chose not to embed the following video, I want you to see the number of hits it has received without even one comment, then look at what the poster explains on the upper right of the video on the YouTube page.  Then please watch this video.

You'll find why women's rights is not the issue of import to abortion, nor the most noble "killing of an innocent life."  No instead it is that enemies of the west, of the freedom of man from the church running things, as it was under feudal dominions that continue in other nations and their cultures, these enemies want a world run by religious orders whose followers have no idea of the wealth and power behind their beliefs, the corruption of the original good purposes of these organizations--again the ancient feudal structure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU

So while you tout your precious women's rights, those who have this type of thing going on are laughing at you, at our nation, and any nation that embraces such population controls while theirs does not.  See they go to the root of understanding something, and even note the variety of nations declining in power whose greatest similarity is decline in their growth rate.  Found in the game SecondLife, in the profile of someone from Saudi Arabia along with a documentary on who wrote the Bible.  Understand terrorism is not the only line of offense enemies of freedom will use or empower to destroy every symbol of freedom from a centralized power structure to allow a religious order (or lack thereof, a reverse religious order) to control, command, and dictate a culture and its people.

Think of this when Planned Parenthood or any other form of abortion comes to mind.


Thank you for reading,


Toddy Littman

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Why Redistribution = Socialism

The trick to redistribution and socialism is, in simple terms:

socialism = controlling the means of production, right?

When person A, who produces nothing, asks the government to get what person A needs to survive from person B, who produces more than enough for themselves (because they like it that way, which would seem to be up to them since it's their work and negotiating effort that resulted in lucrative activity) then government is controlling both person A's means of production and person B's reliance on receiving what they negotiated to receive for work performed, or their productive generation of the means of production for person A, the government, and themselves -- everyone's means of production reliant on person B alone. Government controlling person B by taking anything away from them for any reason is exercising control on the means of production overall.

Thus redistribution is socialism.

Understand by the rolls of people who have been on welfare, food stamps, or other social aid most of their lives, sometimes some 30 and 40 years or more (though occasionally taking a job so as to at least appear they are trying to be on their own), there is a pattern and appearance of just being in the character of person A above, always ready to claim entitlement from others.

Often this is due to antecedent resentments that politically are exploited every 4 years, generally by liberal democrats playing on the person A people who resent those who have more than they do.

This occurs even if liberal programs such as Fannie and Freddie were the primary cause of the financial meltdown, their quasi government status used to strong arm banks, these institutions assured encouragement of banks to loan to those who cannot pay back due to the potential of lawsuits filed by lawyers such as Barack Obama who was chosen by ACORN to be their lawyer just for such lawsuits, lawsuits alleging discrimination on the basis of the bank wanting to not loan to people who cannot pay the loan back. Let us not forget Fannie and Freddie used our money, some 180 million dollars, to lobby for political favor, which essentially resulted in Barack Obama getting an 80% pay raise as a U.S. Senator from Fannie and Freddie alone.

In other words, the success of banks, in the role of person B above, is subjected to the whim of person A via lawsuit, resulting in a financial catastrophe that negatively effected person B further, government has no idea how or what to do to fix it, and, by the election polling data in this election, it appears will only result in person A being able to demand more from anyone who pursues to be the productive person B.

The "socialism" in another way here is the conditioning over time of no one wanting to be person B and everyone wanting to be person A because there is little value in being the producer without having a say over what happens to what you produced, be it the product or the wealth you hoped it would provide, for yourself to determine the distribution of. This conditioning of course, in the future, passes all power to the government to determine who of those not producing can be taken from, for other reasons than production, in order to give to the new person A people so as not to discourage them from pursuing being non-productive whim demanding whiners. Eventually the government has only to determine minor differences amongst large groups of person A people, who, now reliant on government, are docile and haven't any fight left in them. The government becomes the "bank" for everything their complete control created by the premise that person A, who, like a spoiled brat, doesn't want to produce, but is erroneously deemed to be of authority to use government to demand from person B. -- Government the arbiter, and dictator, of criterial determinations, or as known in the former Soviet Union: The Politburo.

Thanks for reading.


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Obama: The Christian?

Reviewing the web for information to use with another article I found the following, just click them to enlarge:

B1

B2

B3




These texts are quoted from the brochure images above:

1) "Year after year, the same politicians offer the same tired campaign promises, which are quickly forgotten after Election Day. It's easy to lose hope and faith.

Barack Obama believes that working together, we can change the ways of Washington.

As President, Barack Obama will be committed to solving the tough issues we face because they aren't just political issues.

They're moral issues."


2) "Barack on the power of prayer."

I believe in the power of prayer. Through prayer, not only can we strengthen ourselves in adversity, but we can also find the empathy and the compassion and the will to deal with the problems that we do control. What I pray for is the strength and the wisdom to be able to act on those things that I can control. And that's what I think has been lacking sometimes in our government. We've got to express those values through our government, not just through our religious institutions."


3) "Committed Christian"

"Guided by his Christian faith, Barack Obama is the leader we can trust to challenge the ways of Washington and change the way our government does business. He will bring together Republicans and Democrats to address the problems facing our nation.

Please compare these with the following:

SENATOR OBAMA: "This bill was fairly extensively debated in the Judiciary Committee, and so I won't belabor the issue. I do want to just make sure that everybody in the Senate knows what this bill is about, as I understand it. Senator O'Malley, the testimony during the committee indicated that on of the key concerns was -- is that there was a method of abortion, an induced abortion, where the -- the fetus or child, as -- as some might describe it, is still temporarily alive outside the womb. And one of the concerns that came out in the testimony was the fact that they were not being properly cared for during that brief period of time that they were still living. Is that correct? Is that an accurate sort of description of one of the key concerns in the bill?"

SENATOR O'MALLEY: "Senator Obama, it is certainly a key concern that the -- the way children are treated following their birth under these circumstances has been reported to be, without question, in my opinion, less than humane, and so this bill suggests that appropriate steps be taken to treat that baby as a -- a citizen of the United States and afforded all the rights and protections it deserves under the Constitution of the United States.

SENATOR OBAMA: "Well, it turned out -- that during the testimony a number of members who are typically in favor of a woman's right to choose an abortion were actually sympathetic to some of the concerns that your -- you raised and that were raised by witnesses in the testimony. And there was some suggestion that we might be able to craft something that might meet constitutional muster with respect to caring for fetuses or children who were delivered in this fashion. Unfortunately, this bill goes a little bit further, and so I just want to suggest, not that I think it'll make too much difference with respect to how we vote, that this is probably not going to survive constitutional scrutiny.

"Number one, whenever we define a previable fetus as a person that is protected by the equal protection clause or the other elements in the Constitution, what we're really saying is, in fact, that they are persons that are entitled to the kinds of protections that would be provided to a -- a child, a nine-month-old -- child that was delivered to term. That determination then, essentially, if it was accepted by a court, would forbid abortions to take place. I mean, it -- it would essentially bar abortions, because the equal protection clause does not allow somebody to kill a child, and if this is a child, then this would be an antiabortion statute. For that purpose, I think it would probably be found unconstitutional.

"The Second reason that it would probably be found unconstitutional is that this essentially says that a doctor is required to provide treatment to a previable child, or fetus, however you want to describe it. Viability is the line that has been drawn by the Supreme Court to determine whether or not an abortion can or cannot take place. And if we're placing a burden on the doctor that says you have to keep alive even a previable child as long as possible and give them as much medical attention as -- as is necessary to try to keep that child alive, then we're probably crossing the line in terms of constitutionality.

"Now, as I said before, this probably won't make any difference. I recall the last time we had a debate about abortion, we passed a bill out of here. I suggested to Members of the Judiciary Committee that it was unconstitutional and it would be struck down by the Seventh Circuit. It was. I recognize this is a passionate issue, and so I -- I won't, as I said, belabor the point. I think it's important to recognize though that this is an area where potentially we might have had compromised and -- arrived at a bill that dealt with the narrow concerns about how a -- a previable fetus or child was treated by a hospital. We decided not to do that. We're going much further than that in this bill. As a consequence, I think that we will probably end up in court once again, as we often do, on this issue. And as a consequence, I'll be voting Present."

All emphasis above is mine.


Note that at no time did Barack Obama mention any existing provision of law protecting infants born alive after a botched abortion either in the debate that occurred on the Illinois Senate Floor on March 30, 2001 I quote above, nor during the entire course of debate where the above was taken from, and found on the web at this link http://www.ilga.gov/senate/transcripts/strans92/ST033001.pdf (pages 84-87). In fact in the last paragraph of the debate above Barack Obama is stating that there is no such law:

"...I think it's important to recognize though that this is an area where potentially we might have had compromised and -- arrived at a bill that dealt with the narrow concerns about how a -- a previable fetus or child was treated by a hospital. We decided not to do that. We're going much further than that in this bill."

His excuse of an existing law, though true, is just an excuse after the fact in an effort to keep people from looking up the floor debate on this issue, to see the genuine lack of compassion and Christian core values he displays so eloquently to argue against a bill that re-affirms the commitment of the state to Born Alive Infants of a botched abortion.

I submit that this floor debate testifies to Barack Obama's lack of faith, lack of integration of Christianity into his values and beliefs, that he is guilty of failing to "pray for is the strength and the wisdom to be able to act on those things that I can control" and a Barack Obama is a key contributor to "what I think has been lacking sometimes in our government." His argument unequivocally demonstrates Barack Obama's absolute inability to "express those values through our government, not just through our religious institutions" and thereby has demonstrated Christianity for Barack Obama, is a means of convenience, a means of influence and, as used in South Carolina, a way to get votes.

From the above as well as other areas where Obama is "creative" I've found he represents the "same politicians" who "offer the same tired campaign promises, which are quickly forgotten after Election Day" for he failed to recognize that abortion is and always has been one of those issues that "aren't just a political issue" nor a "passionate issue " where one could not "belabor the point," if "guided by Christian faith." Of the issues listed in B1 above where Obama's conscience won't rest, abortion is not listed, in the Christian value, the Christian sense of the term and it's moral implications, that abortion is a moral issue, Barack Obama is silent. His argument above shows just how he truly feels about abortion and believes in the Civil Rights of the Child. Barack Obama could care less, the constitution and a woman's right to choose to kill her baby even after it's born is far more important since those are key constituencies to his party. A party man is what you vote for in Barack Obama, nothing less.

Thus rhetoric is all he is spewing, from every facet of what he has to say, out of both sides of his mouth. Anyone who can find a way to believe Barack Obama needs to back away and review how objective they can be for it is obvious to me from the above and the erroneous "Iraq $79 billion surplus" (http://changingwind.org/index/news.php?item.5.3)that The Obama is either entirely inept or even more willing than Bill Clinton to lie directly to the face of the American people.

Thank you for reading.


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Transcript: BAIPA- Obama v. O'Malley March 30, 2001

The original trascript is located here http://www.ilga.gov/senate/transcripts/strans92/ST033001.pdf


Pg 84-88, 03/30/2001 in the Illinois, 92nd General Assembly


"ACTING SECRETARY HAWKER:

Senate Bill 1093.

(Secretary reads title of bill)

3rd Reading of the bill.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR KARPIEL)

Senator O'Malley.

SENATOR O'MALLEY:

Thank you, Madam President, Ladies and Gentleman of the

Senate. Senate bill 1093, as amended, provides that no abortion

procedure which, in the medical judgment of the attending

physician, has a reasonable likelihood of resulting in a live born

child shall be undertaken unless there is in attendance a

physician other than the physician performing or inducing the

abortion who shall assess the child's viability and provide

medical care for the child. The bill further provides that if

There is a medical emergency, a physician inducing or performing

an abortion which results in a live born child shall provide for

the soonest practical attendance of a physician other than the

physician performing or inducing the abortion to immediately

assess the child's viability and provide medical care for the

[P.84]

child. The bill additionally provides that a live child born as a

result of an -- of -- of an abortion procedure shall be fully

recognized as a human person and accorded immediate protection

under the law. All reasonable measures consistent with good

medical practice, including the compilation of appropriate medical

records, shall be taken to preserve the life and health of the

child. I'd be pleased to answer any question there may be.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR KARPIEL)

Any discussion? Senator Obama.

SENATOR OBAMA:

Thank you, Madam President. Will the sponsor yield for

questions?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR KARPIEL)

He indicates he will.

SENATOR OBAMA:

This bill was fairly extensively debated in the Judiciary

Committee, and so I won't belabor the issue. I do want to just

make sure that everybody in the Senate knows what this bill is

about, as I understand it. Senator O'Malley, the testimony during

the committee indicated that on of the key concerns was -- is

that there was a method of abortion, an induced abortion, where

the -- the fetus of child, as -- as some might describe it, is

still temporarily alive outside the womb. And one of the concerns

that came out in the testimony was the fact that they were not

being properly cared for during that brief period of time that

they were still living. Is that correct? Is that an accurate

sort of description of one of the key concerns in the bill?

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR KARPIEL)

Senator O'Malley.

SENATOR O'MALLEY:

Senator Obama, it is certainly a key concern that the -- the

way children are treated following their birth under these

[P.85]

circumstances has been reported to be, without question, in my

opinion, less than humane, and so this bill suggests that

appropriate steps be taken to treat that baby as a -- a citizen of

the United States and afforded all the rights and protections it

deserves under the Constitution of the United States.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR KARPIEL)

Senator Obama.

SENATOR OBAMA:

Well, it turned out -- that during the testimony a number of

members who are typically in favor of a woman's right to choose an

abortion were actually sympathetic to some of the concerns that

your -- you raised and that were raised by witnesses in the

testimony. And there was some suggestion that we might be able to

craft something that might meet constitutional muster with respect

to caring for fetuses or children who were delivered in this

fashion. Unfortunately, this bill goes a little bit further, and

so I just want to suggest, not that I think it'll make too much

difference with respect to how we vote, that this is probably not

going to survive constitutional scrutiny. Number one, whenever we

define a previable fetus as a person that is protected by the

equal protection clause or the other elements in the Constitution,

what we're really saying is, in fact, that they are persons that

are entitled to the kinds of protections that would be provided to

a -- a child, a nine-month-old -- child that was delivered to

term. That determination then, essentially, if it was accepted by

a court, would forbid abortions to take place. I mean, it -- it

would essentially bar abortions, because the equal protection

clause does not allow somebody to kill a child, and if this is a

child, then this would be an antiabortion statute. For that

purpose, I think it would probably be found unconstitutional. The

Second reason that it would probably be found unconstitutional is

that this essentially says that a doctor is required to provide

[P.86]

treatment to a previable child, or fetus, however you want to

describe it. Viability is the line that has been drawn by the

Supreme Court to determine whether or not an abortion can or

cannot take place. And if we're placing a burden on the doctor

that says you have to keep alive even a previable child as long as

possible and give them as much medical attention as -- as is

necessary to try to keep that child alive, then we're probably

crossing the line in terms of constitutionality. Now, as I said

before, this probably won't make any difference. I recall the

last time we had a debate about abortion, we passed a bill out of

here. I suggested to Members of the Judiciary Committee that it

was unconstitutional and it would be struck down by the Seventh

Circuit. It was. I recognize this is a passionate issue, and so I

-- I won't, as I said, belabor the point. I think it's important

to recognize though that this is an area where potentially we

might have had compromised and -- arrived at a bill that dealt

with the narrow concerns about how a -- a previable fetus or child

was treated by a hospital. We decided not to do that. We're

going much further than that in this bill. As a consequence, I

think that we will probably end up in court once again, as we

often do, on this issue. And as a consequence, I'll be voting

Present.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR KARPIEL)

Further discussion? If not, Senator O'Malley, to close.

SENATOR O'MALLEY:

Thank you, Madam President and Ladies and Gentlemen of the

Senate. The one thing the previous speaker did say is that this

is a passionate issue. And -- however, I don't think it's

challengeable on constitutional grounds in the manner that was

described. This is essentially very simple. The Constitution

does not say that a child born must be viable in order to live and

be accorded the rights of citizenship. It simply says it must be

[P.87]

born. And a child who survives birth is a U.S. citizen, and we

need to do everything we can here in the State of Illinois and,

frankly, in the other forty-nine states and in the halls of

Washington, D.C., to make sure that we secure and protect those

rights. So if this legislation is designed to clarify, resecure

and reaffirm the rights that are entitled to a child born in

America, so be it, and it is constitutional. I would appreciate

your support.

PRESIDING OFFICER: (SENATOR KARPIEL)

The question is, shall Senate Bill 1093 pass...."


I kept the line endings the same as they are in the official transcript.

Apologize for typos if any found.
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